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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #15 - 09/15/09 at 15:13:23
 
MAHELA did quite well vs Pqakistan.
 
it seems that for some batsmen [but not all] they are out if they fail in three strikes WHATEVER THE CONDITIONS.  
 
That is what I call PREJUDICE -- in part because (a) PERFORMANCE is assessed in such a  short -term manner--with THREE INNINGS failure being sufficient for a strike out; (b) so mechanical without allowance for the conditons facing the player in question  and (c) when some players are subject to more severe rules than others --- that is when we play favourites and ogres.
 
THESE THREE LEANINGS TOGETHER THEN CONSTITUTE PREJUDICE AGAINST an A or a B.
 
MAHELA IS A MUST FOR TEAM BALANCE at the moment UNLESS HE FAILS OVER A LONG PERIOD [as in 2003 during W-cup period] and becasue -- as much as Sanath -- he can be a match winner and he is an asset to KUMAR in the field as additonal thinker and secondly as good  ubiquitous fielder.
 
That means opting between kAPU and Kandamby when THILAN is brought back in for Champions Trophy -- I wd choose KAPU becasue he is a better fielder and having Thilan and Kandamby both in the field increases the capatian's placement problems.
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #16 - 09/15/09 at 18:05:06
 
My response
 
lets look at this season, which started on July 30, 2009. We played 8 matches in total
I will list all the scores and also averages. Now dont tell me i look only at numbers, coz we can also debate on how each innings was made, where it was made, under what conditions it was, when did each batsman come to the wicket, who batted first and who batted last, and who and who scored in what and what situations....
And let me use all batters in the current team and if u want i can later add Mathews even (let me know coz he batted better than Mahela in my view). and I am going to insert a few comments coz the subject is now on Mahela and pls dont make me anti-mahela for that.
 
               Mahela    Sanath     Dilshan    Sanga            Kapu     Thilan      Kandamby  
vs Pak         33          15             dnp          36               8            10              dnp
Vs Pak         12          30             dnp           2               67*         38*            dnp
vs Pak        123         dnp            dnp          37*              8*           0               32  (sanga remains not, kapu N.O as well)        
Vs Pak          19         dnp            dnp          39               8             2               15  
vs Pak          31            6             dnp          16               1            dnp             42*  
vs Nz             0             7              4            18               dnp         104             15
Vs Ind          17            98            23             5                36           dnp           91*
Vs Ind           1             36            42            33               35          dnp            66  
 
 
During this period
 
Mahela 8 with 29.29
Sanath 6 with 32.00
Dilshan 3 with 23.00 (only 3 matches after injury)
Sanga   8 with 26.57
Kapu     7 with 32.50
Thilan    5 with 38.50
Kanda    6 with 65.25
 
 
Now to Mahela
He bats at number 3 or 4 mainly and thats where the big scores are usualyy expected coz they are prime spots for batsman, our master batsman.
This is his career lisitng. Attaching for you to refer the list and gauge.
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/49289.html?class=2;template=results;t ype=batting;view=match
 
In his last 25 innings he has had only 1 x 100 and 1 x 50. 6 x ducks, 3 x 1’s – this is as bad as his wc 2003 form
His last 25 innings he averages 19!!!
 
In 2003 period, this is what his stats looked
In 2003 Mahela averaged 17.38  
If you think  the 2003 is average of 17.38 is so bad compared to 19 in his last 25 innings. That sure ends the debate Wink
 
And let me also say that we are talking of Mahela in ODI's and not in tests.
 
One argument you can say is Sanga's last  8 match average is lessor than Mahela. That you make the call if you think Sanga should be questioned despite him being the wicketkeeper batsman cum captian. I wouldnt right now. But maybe I will some day i will if it comes to it.
 
And you can say Dilshan is lower, but he played only 3 matches and he is the well earned number one opener right now for us.(do u want to be anti-dilshan)
 
Now to your fielding.  
Yesterday indians had a terrible day in fielding. even the good guys like Kohli and Yusuf Pathan had a horror day. But india won coz their batman made the runs. You need to primarily get the batsman to put good scores. Kandamy may look slow, thilan may look slow, but they are good catchers and do not have terrible hands liek some pakistani's would. If Thilan replaces Mahela in current form, how many runs do u think Thilan would give away in the field compared to Mahela. 100,50, 25,10 hmmmmm I would say nothing more than 10.(fielding is sure and important aspect coz if india fielded well maybe they would have got us out much earlier coz they dropped 2 sitters as well. The bigger reduction in our runs would have been through taking those easy catches and not the agility factor. Agility is important too and that may save a few runs too, but surely not 30's or 40's. And ODO's is a batsmans game and you need the runs first, coz even if we have superior fieldes the great batsman will find the gaps and score the runs. And the runs are the bigger responsibilty of the batsman to make them. Having superior fielders is something we must aim for , but not at the cost of replacing a batsman making good runs by having someone with a average of 19 in the top order. In my case today its mahela and before that it was Sanath, the first is currently the lssor performer whilst the latter was the poor performer until last friday)
 
If u drop Kandamby for Thilan, at current form we are losing the most solid contributer to the middle order. Something like atleast 30-40 runs. And if Mahela can score those runs , then I am with you. Current form suggests he is not doing so. Mind you Mahela occupies number 3 or 4 slot, which is generally for the master batsman. In Odi's has he shown anything to that effect.  
Its not about the last 3 innings for some or whatever you assume as prejudice, its about common sense.
 
And when we go to S Africa, there is a strong possibility that we will have a challenge of facing the full 50 overs without being bowled out, in those conditions versus the stronger teams. We will need the runs and also staying power to play the full 50 overs, unless there is a plan to take the subcontinent pitches airlifted to S Africa.
 
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #17 - 09/15/09 at 21:01:06
 
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I am also thankful for making me refer  back to full meaning of what Prejudice means or anti elements means, coz i did gain some valuable reading and education in the web.  
The only sad part is , you are using it wrongly. But then, its your choice and the reponse is my choice, so I have given above.
 
Now just to add, what If i say you should also evaluate the very word you use prejudice in the post you made. What if i was to turn around and show the the below
 
(Parakkrama, i hope you would be okay for using a post that you replied to for this case study. We have been sparring partner for long and so I know u will understand Smiley)
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This is your request to Para on 9/9/2009 under the post heading my x1 for first odi, coz it sounded like u were ready to counter what LL claimed (but u didnt)
PARA  
 
REQUEST--PLEASE PROVIDE SAME SAT OVERVIEW FOR mahela OVER THE ALST 4 YEARS SAY AND YOUR OWN TAKE ON LANKA L's claims  
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Here is para's reply on 9/9/09 to your request
Michael,  
 
Here are Mahela's stats - http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/49289.html?class=2;template=results;t ype=batting;view=innings  
 
If we look at the stats I will have to agree with LL b'cos of the incosistancy shown by Mahela in this format of the game. For a number 4 bat he should have more scores over 50. He has scored only 2 hundreds in 55 innings in the last 2 years (since April 2007) and 11 scores over 50. He has never matched his test match record in ODI's, not even close to it.  Compare that with Sanga in his last 55 innings, got 4 hundreds and 9 scores over 50. Nothing much in it, is there. Compare that to Sanath in his last 55 innings, got 5 hundreds and 5 scores over 50. Those are our three frontline and most experienced batsmen and the figures dont vary by much, though Sanath should have got more scores over 50.  
 
Why I took 55 innings, that was the point Mahela scored his last hundred. These figures show why we have not done well in ODI's in the recent past. None of the batsmen have been consistant enough to carry us to match winning totals or chase a total when needed. I dont think its Mahela alone, it has been a collective thing with our batting.  
 
Cheers!!  
 
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Ah, but you never responded to any of those and neither to LL who also made the point that Mahela's ODI track record is not good. The link was posted by Parakkrama too,
 
the links to all messages can be found in http://dilmahforum.cricinfo.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1252379015/15
 
 
But though you do not mention Ajith in your current response above, its I who is mentioning Mahela now in this post. And here you are with a word called Prejudice and earlier it was Anti.
 
What if I was to say it sounds like you have Prejudism versus the one who posts(if the name is Ajith) rather than the contents or not the same with anyone else. But I wont say that, you know why, coz we dont need that sort of things here, coz this forum needs debating, opinion sharing, knowleadge sharing and not what you are trying to bring in.  
 
I am trying to show you, why its not neccesary. Maybe you see it differently, but I got to try and let me also say that i am not worried coz I will always be around and will try my rest to respond as well. And mind u i will not take anything personally either coz this again is a area which we call the Dilmah forum and we talk cricket though now we need to also try to defend some of the unnecesary words that are brought in.
 
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #18 - 09/15/09 at 22:35:47
 
In truth, the only claim to fame that Mahela has in ODI cricket is the 2007 WC in which he fared very well including scoring that brilliant 100 in the semis against NZ. His only other claim to fame in this version of the game is how on earth he never got dropped from the side for grossly underperforming! After 2001 by which time he had scored his 5th century, his next century however came only in 2006 against England - that is some 120 matches in between. The years 2002 through to 2004 were abysmal and it was only in 2005 that he started to perform in the manner expected of one of your leading batsman. But that only lasted till 2006 and since 2007, with the exception of the WC that year, he has gone back to his lack of being productive big time. And if Sanga is true to his word about selection being based on performance, then Mahela's tenure is definitely shaky. Certainly, he has looked like a shot duck this season with the exception of the fabulous 100 at Dambulla. Inspite of the 100, he is averaging just 22 in 2009 and this plummets to 17 without this score and that is in as many as 18 innings.
 
Curiously, he has made a greater fist of it in T20 especially during the IPLs so maybe its a concentration thing  Shocked. On that score, I'd like to see him made captain of the T20 team and Kumar left out because Kumar has really struggled in this version - just not his game.
 
And speaking of Kumar, he needs to lift his game too. He looks way too intense for my liking and appears to be so caught up in wordy mumbo jumbo that he repeats robotically at every post match speech as if it was a major revelation. Learn from our mistakes, batsmen taking responsibility blah blah blah. Utter poppycock. He needs to relax and not take the captaincy so seriously! For mine, he is not a patch on Mahela as captain yet.
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Reply #19 - 09/16/09 at 05:08:37
 
Ajith;  
I thank you for responding with stats to Michael's baseless statement.  It is beyond me to understand why some individuals cannot still figure out Mahela the Test batsman is one thing and Mahela the One-Day and T20 batsman is another.
His IPL team Punjab, dropped him from the playing 11 this season.  Because, they give priority to performances only, they don't care how good of advise he could offer to their captain Yuvraj on the field.  In that case, may be we should play Arjuna Ranatunge in the playing 11 as well  Grin
 
MR claims Mahela had a great series against Pakistan but his way of thinking is very common among people who don't analyze stats., yet claims to be accurate in judgement.  (A) Mahela's 123 century in that one match made him a great performer in MR's mind for the entire One-Day series against Pakistan.  (B) May be MR got confused with Mahela's TEST performances with the One-Days.
 
Either (A) or (B) above or the (B) and (A) or the (A), (B), and (C) and may be (D)....and yes (E)...(F)....
 
With MR being an individual with connections to top people in Sri Lanka's cricket and the priviledges to express his cricket opinion, I can now imagine why our team selections go haywire at times!  If this is the line of thinking that many at the top have, then that is what we get in the team selections.
 
What bothers me most with MR type of mindset is that, two of the Kandamby's best innings came for his team at a time when the batting was collapsing around him, yet he held one end tight and stayed at the wicket till the end to make a huge difference.  He did that under tremendous pressure in the middle, where Mahela would have given a catching practice catch and got out.
 
(1) when Kandamby stayed at the wicket to chase that high Indian target in the prior series thus ended up scoring 94.  Although we lost that match, he made it almost possible and had he got one more batsman at the other end who had similar temperament, we would have won that match!
 
(2) In the Compaq series, the earlier match against India where we won, we were going to collapse after Sanath's wicket fell.  We were 176 for 5 when Mathews got out.  We could have easily got all out for 225 runs had Kandamby batted like Mahela in that very instance.  But, what did Kandamby do?  He took the responsibility upon himself, put his head down and consolidated the innings with minimum risks taken.  From the over 31 to over 43 or something he did just that.  Then, after the 45th over with batting PP taken, he took the risks and went for his shots.  Where did we end up as a result?  A match winning 307 runs!
These are not written on a scoreboard, infact they go unnotice many times unless a commentator mentioned them.  However, one should have enough cricket sense to pick them up when they happen!
 
Therefore people, we don't get this sort of thinking batsmen often in our life time.  Few who had such thinking minds in our history, that comes to my mind are, Asanka Gurusinghe, Hashan Thilakeratne and Arjuna Ranatunge.  
Currently, we also have batsmen by the name of Kumar Sangakkara and Thilan Samaraweera who fall into the same category of such batsmen and having a 3rd batsman in the team would only put our team at the level of India that enjoys the intelligent minds of M. S. Dhoni, Tendulkar etc. etc., in their all powerful batting lineup.
 
So, when we run into a one, please learn to judge him correctly using your good cricket senses and give him a chance to succeed!
In my opinion, if we played Sangakkara, Thilan Samaraweera, Kandamby and Angelo Mathews in the same batting lineup, we will go back to our 1996 World cup level and no sooner we will get the "great chasers" tag as well!
 
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #20 - 09/16/09 at 06:19:45
 
Quote from Yoga on 09/15/09 at 22:35:47:

And speaking of Kumar, he needs to lift his game too. He looks way too intense for my liking and appears to be so caught up in wordy mumbo jumbo that he repeats robotically at every post match speech as if it was a major revelation. Learn from our mistakes, batsmen taking responsibility blah blah blah. Utter poppycock. He needs to relax and not take the captaincy so seriously! For mine, he is not a patch on Mahela as captain yet.

 
 
Yoga,
 
Talking of Sanga I fully agree with you on the lighlighted statement. Though the results have been very good under Sanga's captaincy, he has shown to be very intense on the field in contrast to the very cool head shown by Mahela. I agree that he may have taken the captaincy too seriously and trying too hard to impress. That was clear to see in the ODI's more than in the tests. As captain his batting also has fallen away in ODI's to the lowest avarage (26.57 as captain)) since early days of his carrer. In contrast his batting avarage in tests (60.44) as captain is batter than his carrer avarage.
 
Everyone wanted Sanga to captain saying that he has all the ingredients. I agree he has leadership qualities and will end up as one of the best captains we ever had but for now he has to keep it simple and keep cool in tough situations. Trying to be too smart might end up counter productive for him and if his captaincy affects his batting in ODI's, that will not do well for the team.
 
As for Mahela, I think he will have to rethink his options of what is important in his carrer. Personally I would like him to continue with test cricket in which format he has been a prolific scorer and give up on ODI's and maybe even T20's. I think how he performs in the Champions Trophy will give him an idea of whats best for him. For me, Dilshan should captain SL in T20's
 
I think we should get Dinesh Chandimal or Lahiru Thirimanne who seem to be in the Gurusinghe mould to bat at No.3 in ODI's to see how they go. Otherwise get Samaraweera to bat 3.
 
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #21 - 09/16/09 at 10:05:03
 
Yoga/Parakkrama
 
Having thought a bit about what both of you have said about Sanga's captaincy and the intensity he displays in himself, yes i think thats so true.
 
But what I am more interested in is to see Sanga walkign his talk, coz he does talk and he talks nice. But lectures are one thing and practicing same is another. And I am still to see Sanga walk the talk, otherwise what we need is a recorded version which can be played after every match.
 
And Sanga's performance with the bat is also starting have its effects so yes one day that will be in question too. Maybe very soon.
 
LL
Thanks for your inputs as well. Mahela in ODI's is nothing much to shout about. The problem is there seems to be no effort to really pick the correct side. Its based on names and maybe there are many with MR kind of thinking, who says Mahela did well in the pakistani series coz he scored one 100. Is that good enough. Well if this thinking is what the selection committtess and the set-up works on, the chaos will continue.
 
There are many young players in the waiting too and these guys may never get the chance at the right time, if the thinking is that SOME NAMES cannot be dropped, so their wait will be way too long. For S Africa I would like to see the rightful batting combination be played and in that, Kandamby, Thilan, Kapu, Mathews is also a part. Dilshan, Sanath and Sanga are also there and with Dilshan and Sanath going helter skelter for runs, in S African wickets having a solid batting line up to follow will have its rewards and surely much more than what it otherwise would by just playing the normal usual batting setup that is name-oriented.
 
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Reply #22 - 09/18/09 at 10:09:53
 
While I was at it. I also wrote to the paper. The heading ofcouse has been spiced up coz the title I used was  
 
"Appeal to the captain to walk the talk".  But the newspaper has added something to effect of Mahela being Sanga's mate.
 
 
 
Dear skipper, walk the talk and drop your mate Mahela
 
 
    
Humans are full of words. Very few follow the talk with actions. In a recent interview with a newspaper, the current Captain said that players need to be in the team on performance and that should be for any player including himself. Now I am waiting for some actions that are in line with what was spoken.
Even after the interview, it was clear that there was no evidence of resting or dropping Sanath from the playing XI when he was having a bad run of scores. Yes, Sanath finally made a good score, but the wait cost us many runs and also opportunities that should have been given to someone more deserved to make the runs.
 
Now the focus is shifted to Mahela in One Day Cricket. In his last 25 matches he averages 19. He has been less than ordinary in One Day cricket , whilst brilliant in test cricket. So should we not look at other options for the ODI side as there have been sterling performances from Kandamby, Kapugedara, Angleo Mathews and Thilan Samaraweera. All this while, the setup was to make the known NAMES as permanent and then fill the rest. So when we play the next match, where Thilan is also expected to be fit, should he not walk into the team, in place of Mahela if the Captain intends to walk the talk. Of course, one convenient explanation will be that the next match is in South Africa and those pitches need experience. But then going back to even as long as 25 match, does not warrant him a place in the ODI team.
 
Here is Mahela in his last 25 innings as far back as mid 2008, from latest innings and to the past – 1,17,0,31,19,123,12,33,1,28,30,52,11,18,24,1,0,28,0,0,0,4,15,12,16.
 
This is a track record in ODI’s from Mahela batting at either number 3 or 4 and the recent exception was he scored 123 opening in place of Sanath. What we have to evaluate is, does this list of scores suggest that performance and consistency are evident. I think it’s a big NO.
 
So , since Thilan is coming back from injury, the way he should come into the side is by making way through Mahela’s place and not the newbees like Kapugedara’s or Kandamby’s as they have played much better. For comparison sake, let me also list the new season from July that lasted 8 matches.
 
Mahela         1, 17, 0, 31,19,123,12,33                8 matches at 29 average
 
Kandamby    dnp, dnp, 32, 15, 42*, 15.91*, 66     6 matches at 65.25 average
 
Kapugedara   8, 67*, 8*, 8, 1, dnp, 36, 35               7 matches at 32.60 average
 
Thilan            10, 38*, 0, 2, dnp, 104, dnp, dnp       5 matches at 38.50 average
 
Main reason why Kandamby, Kapugedara play lessor matches is because, they are the easy pickings to drop from the side, despite showing better performance and also batting much later than Mahela, which provides them lesser overs to score runs. And Mahela’s average as a top batsman would have been lower , if not for the 123 scored in a high scoring game ,where Sangakkara and Kapugedara also remained not out on a easier track to bat.
 
One from Kandamby, Thilan and Kapugedara are the likely ones who will get the chop when the next match gets about in Sep 22nd. Dilshan, Sanath and Sangakkra will make the side and then we need to pick 4 from Mahela, Kapugedara, Kandamby, Thilan and Mathews, which makes up the batting line up with Angelo as the allrounder. But they are 5 of them, and only 4 places, so who should get dropped. And I am pretty sure they will take the easy decision in chopping Kapugedara or asking Thilan to take the bench, but will not make the right and difficult decision of dropping a poorly performing Mahela in ODI’s.
 
The true performers have been Kandamby, Thilan, Kapugedara and Mathews even with the bat. But it’s likely that the axe falls on a performer.
 
Will the Captain walk his talk, or are these mere words we generally hear, that is played to the gallery?
 
 
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #23 - 09/18/09 at 10:19:12
 
Another view  
 
http://www.island.lk/2009/09/18/sports3.html
 
When should a cricketer retire from international cricket?
by Bro. Nimal Gurusinghe, F.S.C.
As an ardent cricket fan, I feel it is worth pondering on this issue. Also, it is a relevant point to question in the present context.  
 
I know most of the players do not like to hang up their boots even when they are old, especially our Sri Lankan cricketers. They know if they continue to play they would be bloating their bank accounts. So, they would like to carry on as long as possible. They are the least bothered about their country or their own form. If our selectors wait till so called old horses retire, that will do more harm than good to our cricket.  
 
Therefore, the Cricket Board or the Interim Committee has to take some steps to persuade some of the senior cricketers to retire.
 
When a player is about 35 years of age, he is fairly old as a cricketer. A cricketer needs a lot of strength and energy to perform well. He cannot perform as he did when he was in his 20s.  
 
Then the selectors should take a bold step and inform the player that he has played more than enough for the country. If he continues, young players cannot be included in the side. Then the future of Sri Lanka cricket could be in jeopardy. If you do not include up and coming players in the team they will never get a chance to expose themselves.
 
If an aged player wants to continue after 35, he should be given targets. If he is a batsman, he should score at least 350 runs in a given number of innings. A bowler should be able to take at least 35 wickets for the side, again within a certain time frame. If their performances are lower than the expected target, there is no point in keeping them in the team. There are some veteran players in the side who score a century or take five wickets once in a blue moon. It is not the criteria to keep them in the National team. No player should remain in the team, because of his past glories. His past glories will never give anything to the present or future of cricket in Sri Lanka.
 
When a player is about 35 years old he would have played at least 10 years of cricket. By that time he would have earned enough money. Those players can be paid less money than others.  
 
If they refuse to play for lesser amounts, we will know what sort of persons they are; they play cricket because they love money. They do not have any love for the country.
 
My main concern is not aged players playing in the team but their performance. In every nook and corner, there are very talented young players. So, we need not depend on so called big names all the time. Our veterans should realize that they cannot play the game for ever. They have to leave room for young blood to come in. No one in this world is indispensable. Cricketers may come and cricketers may go, but Sri Lanka cricket will go on forever.
 
When a player has done his part for his team, he must have the guts to hang up his boots with grace. Some desire to remain till others ask them to leave. It looks very ugly and it is a shame.  
 
I am not against any senior cricketer. I always appreciate the services they have rendered.  
 
At one time they were juniors and their seniors made way for them. They also should emulate those great players.
 
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #24 - 09/19/09 at 19:13:27
 
Drop Mahela from SODI. For me he is potentially the greatest Test batsman for Sri Lanka. He is needlessly endangering this possibility by following the 20/20 and SODI formats. Money now is not everything, especially, as the likes of Mahela have lucrative careers in media, coaching and admin down the line.
 
Honestly, if I were Mahela, by now I would fully focused on country cricket and test cricket. What a shame!
 
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #25 - 09/19/09 at 19:25:13
 
Quote from Michael_Roberts on 09/15/09 at 15:13:23:

That is what I call PREJUDICE -- in part because (a) PERFORMANCE is assessed in such a  short -term manner--with THREE INNINGS failure being sufficient for a strike out; (b) so mechanical without allowance for the conditons facing the player in question  and (c) when some players are subject to more severe rules than others --- that is when we play favourites and ogres.

 
The good professor needs to re-think his definitions and also stop sounding so bombastic. To suggest that there is prejudice against Mahela is utter nonsense. This comes of course in a public discourse on this forum, so if there is any interest in promoting Mahela's lost cause in SODI in public, surely Michael Roberts has it for his own gain.  
 
Dropping Sanath for reasons of age and the future nurturing of a Test opener, is valid as I have mentioned else where to give support to similar sentiments by other forum members, and indeed fans with only Sri Lanka's future in mind. The 50 over format is the next best thing to four day first class games for finding out batsman and developing their skills for the Test arena. Sanath is taking up much valued space.
 
Dropping Mahela for reasons of performance is also valid, as he is not quite there in the short version of the game. Besides allowing another slot for a group of up and coming batsman, Mahela must concentrate on his legacy now, and as I mention in the previous post, that history is only remembered in test cricket.
 
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #26 - 09/19/09 at 19:44:20
 
Quote from Yoga on 09/15/09 at 22:35:47:

And speaking of Kumar, he needs to lift his game too. He looks way too intense for my liking and appears to be so caught up in wordy mumbo jumbo that he repeats robotically at every post match speech as if it was a major revelation. Learn from our mistakes, batsmen taking responsibility blah blah blah. Utter poppycock. He needs to relax and not take the captaincy so seriously! For mine, he is not a patch on Mahela as captain yet.

 
Many valid points in Yoga's post. But, the above post stands out due to its importance for SL cricket. Sanga really needs to step back and assess the situation, and clam down. We cannot afford a break down, or a reputation loss he would face in his verbal jousts on too many things.
 
We are seeing the two different styles--Mahela's and Sanga--really show up now. I am not sure Sanga can last long unless he re-evaluates things. My sense is also that a return of Tom Moody would help. He is available for India, so why not for Sri Lanka Tom? (No offence to the current coach, but Sanga needs a strong character to balance him for his own good. No, Ashantha De Mel is not the type of character I am referring to!)
 
While I accept Yoga's insight, I have not had the benefits of seeing Sanga in action. Can Yoga and others in Colombo start a separate "Capt. Sanga" thread here, please? If this chap comes of the rails, then will it be to Thilan we turn? I sense that we need to help Sanga on the Mahela and Sanath issue as above. Then we need to let Sanga know that there are issues in his apparent lack of composure in the middle. He must understand that he cannot force the issue, but instead talk it up with his bat. While at it why not give him his young protege from NCC, the new wicket keeper bat?
 
I would back up Yoga's split captaincy for ADI/ADI, only I would pick someone younger for the role. Maharoof, whose all round game is well suited to ADI/ADI?
 
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #27 - 09/19/09 at 23:44:18
 
Quote from Jayantha on 09/19/09 at 19:13:27:
Drop Mahela from SODI. For me he is potentially the greatest Test batsman for Sri Lanka. He is needlessly endangering this possibility by following the 20/20 and SODI formats. Money now is not everything, especially, as the likes of Mahela have lucrative careers in media, coaching and admin down the line.

Honestly, if I were Mahela, by now I would fully focused on country cricket and test cricket. What a shame!

Jayantha

 
Jayantha, while I wholeheartedly agree with your comment above, the darn problem we face is the lack of sufficient Test matches. And often when we get them, they are an infuriating two match series!! This perhaps makes it difficult for someone to sustain their motivation and to maintain their standards when months and months can go by between series'. And with our relatively short domestic comp, this could also mean players having to front up with no cricket of any form behind them. Ofcourse, county cricket as you suggest, would fix that problem of sitting around doing nothing! And I'm sure any county would welcome the services of someone of the calibre of Mahela.
 
Frankly, while your suggestion would be an ideal outcome, I cannot see Mahela opting for such a strategy just yet, though his hand could be forced if his poor run in ODIs continues. What I would like to see is the likes of Mahela and Sanga and other senior players putting pressure on our board to play more Test matches, and or not give in to the disgraceful boards of NZ and West Indies who seem to like nothing more than playing two Test match series against us. If I'm not mistaken, the past two series involving both these countries and for both, home and away matches, the series' have originally all been scheduled for three matches but one Test has been subsequently dumped and an ODI or two added (I think in NZ, a Test was replaced with a T20 game - bloody barbarians!!). In effect, that alone is a loss of four Test matches that could have and should have been played.
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Re: Compaq Cup final
Reply #28 - 09/20/09 at 20:13:17
 
Thanks fellows
 
I have not had time till today SUNDAY midnight to glanceat Dilmah forum. Must ponder over the facts and stats when I can find the time and am fresh. And to decide if I stand corrected  
 
cheers… no worries mates
 
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