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Gilli batted with a Squash ball in his glove...
04/30/07 at 07:58:03
 
Source: http://www.theacademic.org/stories/11778720140/story.shtml
 
Yeah...i am not entirely sure what he did but it sounds a little suspicious.
 
how do Aussies get away with things like this???
 
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Reply #1 - 04/30/07 at 09:13:17
 
Is it not considered tampering ?
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Reply #2 - 04/30/07 at 09:16:21
 
Thats why I always say these guys are upto something. If its not a squash balls its metal parts in bat handles. Otherwise how can people like Gilchrist, Hayden & Ponting hit so powerfully. If its to do with strength  then people like Smith & Kallis of SA & Flintoff should be able to do the same but why only the aussies.  
 
Its b'cos they can get away with it with the ICC and other authorities very keen to turn a blind eye. Its not a level palying field anymore. These guys are taking undue advantage with every loophole they can find in the rule book.
 
Today its a squash ball, tomorrow it can be something else. Its disgusting Angry
 
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Reply #3 - 04/30/07 at 09:21:01
 
This should be illegal rite ?  
 
when a bowler with a genuine case of of fractured finger is not allowed to use plaster in fingers where he will grip the bowl rite ?
 
so this is illegal  
 
inning should be  disqualified  Sad Sad Sad
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Reply #4 - 04/30/07 at 12:49:29
 
I knew there had to be something new involved... every edge, nick and mistimed shot was flying off the bat... This must be questionable, and that was probably the reason that Gilly waited for the finals to test this out, instead of "wasting" it on a normal game and then possibly getting it blamed prior to the finals...
 
As far as I saw it, it was half a squash ball, placed on the palm of his bottom hand, so that would be right in the middle of his bat handle...
 
And this could also be the reason for why Gilly's bat bounced out of his hand during the game
 

 
We'll have a whole new world of cricket if everyone started wearing these, so it'll probably get banned soon, but it's already too late for it now, because the WC final is already record...
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Reply #5 - 04/30/07 at 14:10:45
 
It is called continuous ways of thinking to improve what one does in life. Legal or illegal you have to give credit for the initiative.  
 
This forum is funny at times. Or should I say populated with funny members. Sometimes when I make allegations I get responses like where is the proof etc and get lynched for raising the issue. However, we are now very quick to make various allegations about Gilchrist's bat etc without any proof.
 
If people think it offers an advantage then for God's sake copy it rather than grumble like old grannies.
 
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Reply #6 - 04/30/07 at 14:46:17
 
Pundith,
 
1. well there is no need to ask for evidence as gili himself has accepted it
 
2. chucking is advantageous as well so we all start chucking now ?
 
3. This is a disgrace to game what ever u say mate he shouldn't have done that and most importantly he should not be allowed to go scotfree
 
4. In athletics even after a even is done u still get disqualified so such system should take place for cricket as well as after doing any dirty trick u can still get away with the current system
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Reply #7 - 04/30/07 at 15:10:37
 
I do not think it is ILLEGAL as the laws stand so let's not get carried away.
In the old days with the keeping gloves avaialble then wicky-keepers used to put raw meat inside to soften the takes.  
 
HOWEVER: i do have a real concern with boosted bat handles. This gives an advantage --initially till the practice spreads -- to the technologically advanced nations. But it also alters the game in ways that makes records and comaprisons meaningless. There is a point when, a t elast in team games, one says enough is enough and one keeps the basic elements the SAME.
 
Pole caulting was revolutionised by new poles. Mountaineering, kayaking etc have moved leaps and bounds with new technology --but those are different arenas and i think the principles applied there (bearing on survial as well) cannot be extenede across the board. Say a new ball type and/or new boots enable guys to kick the rugger ball from 75 -80 yards away. I would alter the game for worse.
 
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH in technological innovation..
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Reply #8 - 04/30/07 at 15:21:17
 
I was in total shock and disbelief when Rish posted this from Lanka Academic Network. My initial reaction was this is a hoax, due to the fact, if it is true its a clear "case of unfair play" and the issue does not rest there. ICC clearly has a legal clause to deal with such acts of unfair play and thats why Ponting's bat was put under the microscope, not so long ago.
 
I did some goggling to find any other news sources for a similar report(still thinking its a hoax) and Mr. Pandith take note, this is from Aussie based "Fox sports" and a more detailed report. Do take a read everybody:
 
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,21642663-23212,00.html
 
Before even going to the technical aspects of unfair play, Pandith your last post shows u'r lack of a fair mind in this regard. For goodness sake man, think in terms of what is right. Pls sit down and think before jumping back to do a verbal crucification of me and defend this pathetic, disgraceful act of Gilly. I don't think Gilly himself realizes the level of offense, otherwise he wouldn't be coming public like this. Once the world react to this he would make a official apology.
 
Pandith, you say "copy this"- I dare say do not even think about it. Whats next?  
 
When there were rumors of Poms using mint on the duke ball to cause early reverse-swing you were wholly critical of it. Now you are shamelessly defending a similar act which the parties involved have admitted . Think man, think.....
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Reply #9 - 04/30/07 at 15:58:57
 
re RUGGER I WAS REFERRING TO PENALTY SHOTS
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Reply #10 - 04/30/07 at 16:20:00
 
Micheal,
You are in the right when you say this is not illegal. I searched ICC legal regulations on batting gloves and they've taken great effort explaining the size of commercial logo, etc, as typical of ICC- only thinking of the commercial interests, but nothing on fair play in terms of batting gloves.  
 
It gives a distinct advantage and place a player who does not resort to such 3rd grade tactics at a disadvantage. Sports should always measure the skill levels(both physical & mental) of players involved, with the least assistance from outside factors. Gilly was out-of form and he was having a problem with his bat grip(thus a drop in skill) and with this outside factor he gets assistance to better his grip. How is this fair? Also imagine, if everybody start walking to the pitch with squash balls filled gloves and batting gloves looking like inflated balloons....I mean realistically do we want cricket to go down that path?
 
Just because it wasn't illegal, it doesn't mean its right. In terms of fair play and ethics; back in the 70's underarm bowling- though it wasn't illegal at that time, no one really exploited that loophole. As it would be a clear violation of spirit of the game and all those good things cricket stood for. Then comes a desperate Aussie skipper and he instructs his brother in thorough desperation to win a match against Kiwis. Alas! later it was made illegal. Would this also go down the same path.......  
 
Funny thing is its always an Aussie involved in this exploitations. Now when Pandith says hell with ethics, hell with fair play, and if it is legal, then it should be used and not using it, and mere criticism of it is a sign of weakness of the Team, the fans and the overall culture.  
 
Let me tell you, I come from a city that has no place for ethics and fair play and only the legal aspect is thought of. But is that right? Do I appreciate it after living 12 years in New York City? No obviously not. The reason why people resort to such 3rd grade tactics and say hell with ethics is because of their own insecurities. I see that in lot of people over here. Deep down they are very insecure, so its case of , we will not win if we play fair and square, lets try to win by any means. On a broader perspective, I read somewhere how the whole Aussie psyche is mainly built on the success of their sports Teams, and this is more than any other nation. Hence win by any means and do not disgrace the nation.  
 
Micheal, you say "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH". I agree, and lets not limit this to a few sentences here. This ought to STOP and Gilchrist has to be punished for this act. Following is a link to ICC e-mail for fans to write:
 
http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/contact-us.html
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Reply #11 - 04/30/07 at 16:33:13
 
Hiran that is your view on NYC etc. It is upto you to choose that way of living (ie in NYC) or pay the price (whatever that is.. maybe there is no price to pay).
 
There are so many things people and nations do that are crazy. Yet people do it because that is what makes the world go around. You can choose to participate or you can choose to ignore. Then it comes down to a qustion if you will be left behind. To some degree you are right when you talk about insecurities.
 
So lets talk how this applies to cricket. Just say a nation does something and which you consider that it is being done because they are insecure. You may be 100% right. However, if they are engaging in that practice and succeeding then what do you do???????????
 
Are you just going to ignore it and play your secure game and get nowhere?
 
This is the world of today my friend. You either play the game and abide by the rules dictated by the best or not play and be something else or a nobody. You will be left behind in everything if you choose this way of living.
 
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Reply #12 - 04/30/07 at 16:49:22
 
Pandith, First of all let me give you credit, you have definitely changed from the old Pandith(Did u talk to a priest or something? meditation....?)  Grin
 
Now where do u draw the line? Today OZ adopt this and continue not minding others opposition as its not illegal(based on your theory). Lets say tommorow Sri Lanka unleash a simillar tactic against Aussies and despite the Aussie opposition we continue. Other nations do similar unsporting acts. Then who is to say you are wrong and everyone may continue. Where does sports, which should be to Test players skill levels end up?  
 
Thats why mere legal clauses cannot handle everything. We cannot be passing laws at every juncture. Afterall cricket is a sport and some mutually agreed upon concepts/rules in-terms of ethics have to prevail and have to be exercised by member nations.  
 
Lets face it Pandith, this is not fair play and violation of cricket ethics.
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Reply #13 - 04/30/07 at 17:22:28
 
I agree with Hiran we must complain to the authorities about
these practices to clarify the situation. I have sent an email  
to the ICC as Hiran suggested and I hope you will send a  
complaint to the MCC at Lords who deal with the Laws and
it was the MCC who banned Pontings illegal bat last year.
 
Remember to mention the Metal handle used in the bat by
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Please send a complaint to the MCC Laws department here:
 
http://www.lords.org/mcc/about-mcc/cricket-contacts
 
laws@mcc.org.uk
 
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Reply #14 - 04/30/07 at 17:37:51
 
Thanks a lot for pointing that out chucker and you are right, on this issue I think MCC has more teeth than the ICC. Lets not limit this to a another thread in here, Gilchrist ought to pay for this disgraceful act.  
 
So before you leave this forum do jot down at least a few sentences, in decent respectful language(straight upto the point). It does not have to be lengthy as there are time constraints for all of us. Even a few sentences will do. This is the least we arm chair critics can do for that great effort/s of our Team and for the game as a whole.
 
* MCC(MCC's role remain guarding the game's Laws to safeguarding its Spirit....):-
 
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